to have you with us tonight. is it really a scam? is it all about making money or does beck really want to bring this country back to god, what do you think? >> well, according to "forbes" magazine, the beck enterprises made $32 million last year. so unless glenn beck is prepared to turn all of that money over to charities, i think that we can clearly and safety call him on his hypocrisy. and maybe it's a good campaign to lead, ed. we encourage beck to give the money away, because he wouldn't want to profit from something, right? so i think there's a strong, clear case about what you were saying, the money is a driving force here. and the irony of this man, sort of taking on the mantle of dr. king, you know that dr. king would be right up on the board with van jones and color of change and all the other people that beck has gone after. >> why is it then when liberals are passionate, we're labeled as angry? yet when conservatives get passionate, they're just great americans? is this just a conversational trip that these folks are on, what do you think? >> well, it's the fact that they're